Supporting Architectures above armv5tel
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- 2 Project Description
- 3 Project Leader(s)
- 4 Project Contributor(s)
- 5 Project Details
- 6 Project Plan
- 7 Things to learn
- 8 Project News
Supporting Architectures Above armv5tel
The armv5tel architecture version is supported by some common devices such as the Marvell Feroceon processors used in most plug computers. However, later versions of the architecture support advanced features, and using armv5tel code on those processors may result in suboptimal performance.
This project will research ways that Fedora-ARM could support higher processor versions effectively without recompiling the entire Fedora package universe -- for example, by providing an armv7 + hardfp glibc and kernel. This involves performance testing across multiple devices.
- #ubuntu-arm (persia)
- #gentoo-embedded (solar and steev_)
Tae Hee (Tyler) Lee
My fellow classmate, a great and helpful guy working on the To Thumb or Not to Thumb Project. We both have the same project objective; to benchmark a system. (his project deals with 16-bit codes) We share access to the test builder cdot-beagleXM-0-3 and even ran tests both at the same time that could have toasted it! Tyler helped me out with with scripting/'makefiles' and using 'screen'.
What the project is all about
Currently, Fedora only supports armv5tel codes. With the release of armv7 architecture (with beagleboardXM) Fedora-ARM is pressed with the decision of upgrading its Fedora Universe to use armv7 code. While it seems logical, re-compiling the whole Fedora package is a strenuous task. Before deciding to recompile the whole universe, Fedora-ARM can test if optimizing certain system binaries to use armv7 architecture provides significant performance difference against the currently used armv5tel codes. The test would clarify if armv7 codes used for armv7 hardware really improves system performance.
This project aims for that sole purpose. By running a benchmark and compiler optimizations on system binaries, Fedora-ARM can contrast both technologies and use the results to decide if it's really worth to recompile the whole Fedora Universe to use armv7 codes.
Below is a list of technologies by armv7.
There are currently 2 ARMv7 (beagleboard & beagleboard XM) builders in the Fedora ARM farm. These builders are running builds on ARMv5tel. This project will focus in using the beagleboardXM builder
Specifications for the cdot-beagleboardXM-0-3 builder
Linux version 2.6.32 (ubuntu@ip-10-204-115-71) (gcc version 4.3.3 (GCC) ) #3 PREEMPT Wed Aug 18 15:53:03 UTC 2010
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
BogoMIPS : 515.72
Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x3
CPU part : 0xc08
CPU revision : 2
Hardware : OMAP3 Beagle Board
Revision : 0020
Serial : 0000000000000000
MemTotal: 498716 kB
rpm -q glibc
glibc-2.11-2.fa3.armv5tel (Subjected for upgrade to armv7)
Goals for each release:
[0.1] Optimize and run a benchmark program specifically designed to make use of
Any packages compiled for the beagleboards can be installed without optimization. So far, in the case of
cdot-beagleXM-0-3 packages are compiled without it. Without optimizations, software installed in a system can only run on sub-optimal performance. In order to make use of ARMv7 architecture features, editing the
CFLAGS to use
arm optimization options will let the compiler attempt to improve the performance and/or code size of the program; resulting in a more efficient/faster system.
The goal of this release is to run a benchmark software named Dhrystone on
cdot-beagleXM-0-3 and record the results. Three (3) runs are required: No optimization, Optimized for armv5tel, and Optimized for armv7. Dhrystone is chosen as the benchmark software mainly, to test the general system performance of
cdot-beagleXM-0-3 and to test how much performance gain can be expected from optimizing a program. Other reasons include:
Reasons for using Dhrystone
- ARM® recognizes the program and uses it as a performance attribute of their processors.
- Dhrystone provides a more meaningful MIPS (Million Instructions Per Second) because results are compared to a reference machine.
- Dhrystone numbers reflect the performance of the C compiler and libraries more so than the performance of the processor itself. (considered as a weakness of the program)
- Check if armv7 optimization options and armv5tel optimization options differ significantly in program performance
Test Result (in DMIPS):
Normal = 758.869322709 DMIPS
Optimized for armv5tel = 1034.82179852 DMIPS
Optimized for armv7 = 1034.82179852 DMIPS
The benchmark graph shows that optimization increased the overall performance of cdot-beagleXM-0-3 by 36% (Normal run vs. Optimized for armv5tel/armv7). The results for both armv5tel and armv7 optimizations are the same. (It can be assumed that the armv5tel glibc impacts the performance of C library dependent programs such as Dhrystone). Another possible reason is that the compiler used is already armv7 optimized (since dhrystone also relies on the compiler efficiency) The data gathered can be used as a reference for conducting 0.2 project release.
[0.2] Install an armv7 glibc and re-run the benchmark using dhrystone
Since optimizing the benchmark program using both architecture optimizations revealed the same results, optimizing the system binaries and re-running the benchmark should be able to provide a more concrete contrast between the 2 architectures.
The goal of this release is to find out if upgrading the armv5tel glibc would affect the performance of a C library dependent program such as dhrystone. By re-installing glibc using armv7 optimizations and re-running an armv7 optimized dhrystone; a better benchmark result is expected (Higher DMIPS). The result would be beneficial for Fedora-ARM, for it will help the community decide if armv5tel codes should continually be supported.
In order for a successful glibc armv7 build, the file /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc needs edit to use armv7 build options. Using mock; a downloaded glibc source can be rebuilt. Once finished, the binaries can then be installed locally to the system using rpm OR a local repository can be created enabling the use of yum.
The Dhrystone (DMIPS) results never changed. The benchmark brought the same, exact number of DMIPS. Although Dhrystone does make use of C library functions and is assumed that the glibc would have effects on the program; the results proved that upgrading the glibc did not bring what's expected.
It is proven that armv7 and armv5 arch optimizations provide the same level of performance especially when running C library dependent programs on cdot-beagleXM-0-3 builder. Why is it possible when armv7 architecture is supposed to be better than armv5tel? One big answer is that the system tested was built to use an ABI called "softfp". Although beagleboardXM (cortex-a8)supports the "hard floating-point" ABI, The Fedora-ARM currently can't afford to waste time building a system that supports "hardfp" solely on test purposes. To make things a little clearer, cdot-beagleXM-0-3 can't use the technology offered by ARM-cortex-a8 processor because of how the system (down to the lowest level) is built.
ARM Floating point is a pretty big topic, provided are some links to help you understand more.
- Standard for floating point arithmetic
- ARM Floating Point
- arm-hardfloat wiki
- Software floating point in GCC
In conclusion, Fedora-ARM can continue to use armv5tel codes on armv7 machines. Deciding to recompile the whole universe for armv7 is somehow an inconvenient recommendation for now.
[0.3] Future project prospect
The previous test didn't leave an opportunity for me to work on [0.3] Release. Although the comparison is done, and the results are gathered; One last option to test armv7 technology still remains: "Rebuild everything to use a hardfp ABI!" This recommendation would undoubtedly reveal the performance difference of armv7 against armv5tel; but at the same time would be a big project "not suitable for a single person to work on".
I hope that this project page including the Dhrystone How To page can be of use for future ARM based project reference.
Things to learn
-gcc ARM optimizations
-Ways of benchmarking ARM processors
-gcc install options
-Compiling kernel and glibc
-Familiarization with ARM hardware
December 16th, 2010 - [0.2] and [0.3] Release updated and finalized
December 15th, 2010 - Added the Dhrystone How to Page
December 9th, 2010 - Project page update (0.1 Release)
November 22nd, 2010 - Release 0.1 test results posted
November 4th, 2010 - Compiler optimization options ready for testing, project page updated
October 19th, 2010 - Chris Tyler explained more about the project, including goal 0.1
October 15th, 2010 - Project page updated (Things to learn)